Discussion
Steven Johnson's book, Where Good Ideas Come From
Similar notions are discussed in Steven Johnson's new book Where Good Ideas Come From (2010), described in this engaging 4-minute book-release video:
His summary of his central idea at the end of the TED talk and the 4-minute video is "chance favors the connected mind."


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Christina Cantrill
on Nov 03 2010
at 17:08
mistakes, errors and noise in the signal
Thanks for posting these, Margaret. Both really interesting (as well as entertaining!) and I like the fact that your response itself involves multimedia, so thanks for adding these as the discussions here in Digital Is are just getting up and running.
In the TED talk I was particularly struck by Steven Johnson's examples of how "liquid networks" support innovation, and how, at least in the one example of scientists sharing in a lab setting around a conference table at their weekly sharing meeting, that more often than not what was shared that led to the good ideas were "mistakes, errors and noise in the signal."
Interesting to think about what can be learned from that too.
margaret fiore
on Nov 03 2010
at 18:16
about those mistakes...
...yes, and Johnson makes the point, in several places in the book, that mistakes can be productive, generative--a notion to think about in our "right-answer-manic high-stakes-testing-driven" teaching environment.
On our NYCWP listserv, Joe and Julie posted this 11-minute video, I'm guessing by the same animator as the four-minute Steven Johnson book-launch video, of Sir Ken Robinson talking about education reform, and he gets to the issue of mistakes, too:
Great to meet you, Christina,
Margaret
Kevin Hodgson
on Nov 05 2010
at 03:19
Mistakes: not allowed
I want to echo your point here about how standardized testing, and the need to at least push our teaching in the direction of student achievement on those tests, narrows the margin for allowing creative mistakes in students. I think we are more apt to "correct" our students, and not necessarily fuel that mistake into a new path towards something interesting. I hate that I feel less flexible now than I used to.
But, when it comes to using technology and media for creation, that flexibility raises its head. If you are not flexible with technology in the classroom -- if you are rigid that this must be done this way -- the learning experience is most likely doomed. Technology in the hands of young people forces flexibility, I think. Particularly if you want them to discover something new. (do we?)
Kevin
Christopher Mitchell
on Jul 12 2011
at 14:50
I don't think there is any
I don't think there is any doubt that the current culture of standardized testing is moving us away from the process of students making productive mistakes. Things are so high stakes now, it's hard to convince a student it is ok to make mistakes along the way, though most of us would agree that's how we learn many of life's lessons.
Another area that the focus on standardizeed testing seems to be hurting us in is the development of long, slow thinkers. Many of our greatest innovations were developed by people who would describe themselves as long, slow thinkers. With the increase in curriculum and testing, it hardly seems there is any time for them to develop any longer.
-Chris
Elyse Eidman-Aadahl (Admin ...
on Mar 11 2011
at 11:53
Fail early, fail often
Adding to the sequence of replies on the same theme...
In industry more generally, but particularly in innovation-focused industries, the importance of productive failure cannot be overestimated. We have ideas, they lead to prototypes, prototypes work in some ways and fail in others, the failures help define new problems to work on or new understandings of old problems, and then we make new iterations. This is also how the writing process works...we draft, it works in some ways and fails in others, we see the draft anew and get response that helps us understand where a piece it going in a way that we couldn't even see before we had a draft, then iterate, iterate, iterate. Writing is like innovation more broadly, only with text as the core mechanic.
But policy structures for schools have created a punishing environment for 'failure', which leads many to be risk-averse. High stakes testing leads many students to be risk-averse. Despite all the policy emphasis now on innovation and "winning the future", this simple point that you are all making is not getting much attention. Thanks for turning up the volume about this in our DI community.
Kevin Hodgson
on Nov 05 2010
at 03:16
Remembering the Napster Debate
This resource, and Margaret's response, reminds me of the debates I used to have (raging ones, actually) when Napster was front page news as the music pirates of MP3 sharing. My friends would always take the side of the music companies (see how well they have adapted) and I would stake out this ideal position on the other side, arguing that "art" in all of its forms should be free to be re-used, re-mixed and adapted for various purposes, and therefore, Napster was a good thing.
Note my word, ideal. I knew then, and I know now, that this concept potentially hurts the artist, who then may create less art, and so on and so on. But I hold true to the idea that the world is a better place when we have free access to all kinds of art -- music, writing, paintings, etc.
I wrote this poem a few years ago, when I was having yet another debate with a friend on the same topic (although Napster had long since been hammered by the legal process and iTunes was just emerging to make us pay for everything).
Jason Shiroff
on Mar 11 2011
at 10:44
Teacher Collaboration
Margaret,
Thanks for posting these videos. It reminds me of the importance of teacher collaboration, which is the heart of the Writing Project. By opening our classroom doors and venturing into other's teaching lives our ideas have a chance to evolve.
The interconnected world needs to be reflected in our educational climate as well. I know some of my best teaching moments are a result of brorrowed ideas. Steven reminds us that sharing ideas is the engine of innovation. This is true in education as well.
I hope the next generation of teachers embraces connectedness and openness.
Thanks for sharing,
Jason